Wednesday, September 10, 2008

Market anarchism mentioned; Social anarchist wimps not happy

A brief article on market anarchists attending the RNC was recently posted at Infoshop. If you want a good laugh, scroll down and read the responses.

One commentor writes:

The sooner so-called "market anarchists" totally distance themselves from "anarcho"-capitalism and people like Molinari, Rothbard and other supporters of "pure" capitalism the better. It would also help if they called themselves, say, mutualists -- assuming, of course, that they are genuine anarchists...

Hahaha yeah, if only we would see the light and embrace mutualism. *Raspberry* That'll happen soon!

And what is the argument? That defenders of capitalism and hierarchy like Molinari and Rothbard are actually "market anarchists"? If they are, then "market anarchism" is simply "anarcho"-capitalism with a more clued up PR campaign. If they are not, then why link to a site which includes "anarcho"-capitalism in "market anarchism"?

Hey, they caught on surprisingly quick on that one! Usually they're easier to fool (not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed, after all).

Another dullard leaves a series of questions. My insightful, respectful answers are after them.

1. Do market anarchists believe in inherited wealth?

Yessiree Bob.

2. Do market anarchists believe that individuals who accumulate more wealth have the right to purchase for private use large areas of property and enjoy them and the products of this land?

Damn straight!

Or do they subscribe by Tucker's late idea that whoever has the most force to possess the land has the right to take it?

Nah, that's a bunch of tree-hugging hippie crap.

3. Do market anarchists believe that they can use wage labour and that using employees is a consensual act?

Hells yeah, we dig that stuff.

Or to [sic] they only believe in individual labour or cooperative labour?

A hahahahaha!!! *Catching breath* No seriously..."cooperative labor"...a hahahahah!

Where do they come up with this stuff?

4. What is this "market" if not the instrument which determines, among other things, the value of exchange for goods and labour? (At least Warren wanted to make time equal to time.)

BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh my god, I feel like I'm going to pass out. What's next, worship of the pagan gods?

6. Why are the market anarchist pages full of anarchocapitalist texts?

Because we are anarcho-capitalists, you dummy.

Thanks for the chuckles, geniuses.

(Note: this post was written with a lot of Smirnoff in me. Don't take it too seriously.)

13 comments:

Mike said...

Amen. I see so much ignorance of economics, coupled with a goofy utopianism there.

My own rejoinder: http://news.infoshop.org/comment.php?mode=view&cid=136700

anarcho-mercantilist said...

1. Do market anarchists believe in inherited wealth?

Market anarchists do not believe in inherited wealth stolen illegitimately. For example, they are opposed to the state that steals wealth thru taxes and inherits it. If they want to abolish the wealth, they would use proportional force to claim it back. Market anarchists do not advocate unproportional force such as killing the capitalist to get the stolen wealth back, no matter how much wealth is stolen.

2. Do market anarchists believe that individuals who accumulate more wealth have the right to purchase for private use large areas of property and enjoy them and the products of this land?

The state cannot accumulate more wealth to buy stuff and land. State-privileged businesses should'nt possess the wealth by land.

Or do they subscribe by Tucker's late idea that whoever has the most force to possess the land has the right to take it?

Anarchists believe in non-aggression, that is, oppose all unvolitional and aggressive force.

3. Do market anarchists believe that they can use wage labour and that using employees is a consensual act?

If the state exist, then it is not consensual because workers are illegitimately barred from starting his own business because of regulations.

Or to [sic] they only believe in individual labour or cooperative labour?

Market anarchists believe that individuals can use cooperative strategies such as free trade (which benefits both parties).

4. What is this "market" if not the instrument which determines, among other things, the value of exchange for goods and labour? (At least Warren wanted to make time equal to time.)

The market does not determine the real value of the goods because value is subjective. If you use "value of exchange" to mean the Marxian definition of "exchange value", the price of a good is equal to the exchange value. The price of a good is not more than the exchange value, since there is no surplus value in the free market.

6. Why are the market anarchist pages full of anarchocapitalist texts?

Market anarchist pages often include anarcho-capitalist texts because the majority of contributors of the articles who are market anarchists are also anarcho-capitalists. Market anarchist pages do not include mutualist™ pages because the mutualists™ who also identify as a market anarchist is a minority.

Cork said...

anarcho-mercantilist,

You have far more patience with these deadbeats than I do.

Stephan Kinsella said...

Cork--this is great stuff. Just stumbled across your blog. Would you shoot me an email at nskinsella at gmail dot com?

anarcho-mercantilist said...

You have far more patience with these deadbeats than I do.

Cork, you seem to have far more patience with them than other market anarchists. Your post is meaningless, and meant nothing other than to retaliate against the social "anarchists" who had emotionally abused you. Even that you appear to be offended by the social "anarchists," do not feed the trolls. It's worthless to waste your time writing a post specifically to show your resentment against them. They only consist less than 0.01% of the population. You can promote far more productive activities on your blog.

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